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Fahey
Topic Started: Dec 10 2011, 08:42 PM (1,563 Views)
blueboy75
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11thhour
Dec 11 2011, 10:16 AM
People do not understand football or the tactical game that it is , when I read the team , I said to the kids , we will really miss Fahey, there is no one to put his foot on the ball and find another blues player. And boy did we miss him untill he came on.

Now I'm not saying that N'Daw had a bad game , far from it , I think he played really well , and so did Spector , but they are one and the same player, runners , neither of them picked the ball up and got us playing , as soon as Fahey came on he sat there , never wasted a ball and set up EVERYTHING we did from that point.

He is being asked to do a job , he is the best we have at doing that job, I see his value and it was missed for 70 minutes yesterday, when he came on we became a better team , we kept posession better, we attacked better and at that time Donny were playing a 4-6-0 formation, he found space and a Blue shirt, until Mutch comes back we have no other midfielder who can do that job, Gomis, Spector and N'Daw are all the same player............. Apart from the 2 CB's Fahey would be the 1st name on my team sheet.

Spot on.. we missed Fahey and also Beau as well... we look more dangerous with him playing... Elliot played well but never really created anything..
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Anyone who booes one of our own players before they step onto the pitch is truely a numpty of the highest order.
Its insulting to the manager who picks him and immediatly causes ndis harmony amongst the fans at a time we all need to pull together.

Its disgracefull!

KRO
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tony123
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Yes if you pay £20+ and boo your own player well your a bit of an imbecile really.

It doesnt help and you might as well have saved your £20+ quid.

Get behind the players and support the team. Fahey isnt in his best form but he is still a good championship player and VITAL member of the team and in no way does his performances justify booing during a game. If fans want to discuss/criticise performances on a message board or over a pint thats fair enough but booing the player "what a bunch of dullards".

If we ACTUALLY want to be in the playoffs and have a chance of promotion we have to support the team and try and lift players who are having a bad game.

Lets Support the team.

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Although I didn't and wouldn't boo Fahey, I hope N'Daw's injury isn't serious as I thought he added far more to our play than Fahey
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Dec 12 2011, 02:31 PM
Although I didn't and wouldn't boo Fahey, I hope N'Daw's injury isn't serious as I thought he added far more to our play than Fahey

I really can't see where you are coming from with this. I agree to a point that N'daw played well but he was asked to do a different role to what Fahey plays. Fahey picks the ball up, plays a pass off and then makes space to receive the ball again if no other option. He will then in moments, play neat balls through to our wingers!
Fahey's job is to keep the ball and retain possesion! Their is 90mins in a football match and it takes 10seconds to score so he protects the ball and keeps us ticking, making the opponent work, therefore tiring them out!
He is a real simple player who rarely loses the ball, his always an option and never afraid to receive the ball anywhere on the pitch.

N'daw didn't keep the ball for us, he lost it on many occasions with sloppy passing or not being comfotable on the ball, but to be fair to him he then went and won it back and put his body on the line and won the 50-50's. That's meant to be spectors job so I feel if u where impressed by N'daw then maybe consider spectors place!
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Fahey is not good enough. I think he is a poor player as clearly do many others.

He has had plenty of games to improve and he has not.

If you play in the middle of the park you can't hide...he does !

...but I hope he does improve and I would never boo a player.
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1LoveridgeC
Dec 12 2011, 02:31 PM
Although I didn't and wouldn't boo Fahey, I hope N'Daw's injury isn't serious as I thought he added far more to our play than Fahey

I read that it was cramp, mainly due to lack of match fitness.
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Dec 12 2011, 05:42 PM
1LoveridgeC
Dec 12 2011, 02:31 PM
Although I didn't and wouldn't boo Fahey, I hope N'Daw's injury isn't serious as I thought he added far more to our play than Fahey

I read that it was cramp, mainly due to lack of match fitness.

With the amount of running he did I'm not surprised he got cramp!
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Dec 12 2011, 05:45 PM
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Dec 12 2011, 05:42 PM
1LoveridgeC
Dec 12 2011, 02:31 PM
Although I didn't and wouldn't boo Fahey, I hope N'Daw's injury isn't serious as I thought he added far more to our play than Fahey

I read that it was cramp, mainly due to lack of match fitness.

With the amount of running he did I'm not surprised he got cramp!

The good thing about "G N'D" as I call him, is that the sight of him charging towards you would have you getting rid of the ball fairly sharpish.
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northside blue
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Its a British trait, get stuck in & your great even though you have very little ability the fans will love you :LMAO: actually have ability but the physical side of the game isn't your best asset & you will be ripped to pieces.
N'daw probably played 5 or 6 passes to the invisible man on saturday but not a squeek from anybody :rolleyes: Beau fro me has been shocking at times in fact he doesen't play his position very well most of the time but again hardly a complaint (how much did he cost compared to Fahey :blink:
I think there's people who just dont like Fahey full stop regardless of what he does on the pitch.
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Felt sorry for keith with the booing on sat - he's a blues player, puts on our shirt, and tries to help us win
if you want to boo go then sit with the away fans as its only helping their team

However, pleased to see all the other positive feedback for Keith on this post.
I think he should have a song - that'll boost his confidence and drown out the boo boys

Prince Charming theme by Adam Ant always goes thru my head when hear his name for some reason

Howabout....

"Keith Faheyee, Keith Faheyeeee,
With Fahey on his day Blues are on their way "

And repeat until whole crowd joins in!

Ah well, got to start it somewhere....



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Okay so a few idiots don't like Fahey... Alex McLeish does, Chris Hughton does, Giovanni Trappatoni does.
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Dec 11 2011, 10:45 AM
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Dec 10 2011, 08:42 PM
Booing is a disgrace. all for booing someone who doesn't try.
Granted he isn't good enough, explain how booing will help?

Idiots

I am a big critic of Fahey - but booing is just plain stupidity. The player gives 100% and is loyal to the club. He isn't on obscene wages (I think) and does not get any bad press.

I am really more disappointed than anything else with him . He's got his so-called best position, he is in a lower league yet he is not centre stage with his performanaces. Do you know what? I think we were duped by those St Patrick's fans, coupled with the plastic paddies who jumped on the bandwagon.

As for booing - just plain stupid. There is a place for booing - Marcus Bent and Tevez for example - but not for anybody who is trying to earn is money.

Gotta say totally agree against booing

However Keith Fahey frustrates the hell out of me.....I have never known a player as lightweight as him!!!

If he was to bolster himself up a bit and gain a bit more confidence to perform to the level I reckon he could be, then I'd be a happy man....unfortunately he's dispossessed quite regularly and very rarely runs at defenses

I'm not writing him off....as I know he has undoubted ability, I just wish we'd see glimpses of it more frequently

Kro
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Dec 12 2011, 05:57 PM
Its a British trait, get stuck in & your great even though you have very little ability the fans will love you :LMAO: actually have ability but the physical side of the game isn't your best asset & you will be ripped to pieces.
N'daw probably played 5 or 6 passes to the invisible man on saturday but not a squeek from anybody :rolleyes: Beau fro me has been shocking at times in fact he doesen't play his position very well most of the time but again hardly a complaint (how much did he cost compared to Fahey :blink:
I think there's people who just dont like Fahey full stop regardless of what he does on the pitch.

This.
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BLUE KID
Dec 12 2011, 08:15 PM
northside blue
Dec 12 2011, 05:57 PM
Its a British trait, get stuck in & your great even though you have very little ability the fans will love you :LMAO:  actually have ability but the physical side of the game isn't your best asset & you will be ripped to pieces.
N'daw probably played 5 or 6 passes to the invisible man on saturday but not a squeek from anybody :rolleyes: Beau fro me has been shocking at times in fact he doesen't play his position very well most of the time but again hardly a complaint (how much did he cost compared to Fahey :blink:
I think there's people who just dont like Fahey full stop regardless of what he does on the pitch.

This.

Well maybe fans/supporters/ whatever you call them - just dont like Fahey........

Maybe Fahey needs more match impact to win the public paying supporters.



Over to you Keith !
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I think the people who boo their own players are idiots.
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Dec 12 2011, 08:00 PM
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Dec 11 2011, 10:45 AM
02grapau
Dec 10 2011, 08:42 PM
Booing is a disgrace. all for booing someone who doesn't try.
Granted he isn't good enough, explain how booing will help?

Idiots

I am a big critic of Fahey - but booing is just plain stupidity. The player gives 100% and is loyal to the club. He isn't on obscene wages (I think) and does not get any bad press.

I am really more disappointed than anything else with him . He's got his so-called best position, he is in a lower league yet he is not centre stage with his performanaces. Do you know what? I think we were duped by those St Patrick's fans, coupled with the plastic paddies who jumped on the bandwagon.

As for booing - just plain stupid. There is a place for booing - Marcus Bent and Tevez for example - but not for anybody who is trying to earn is money.

Gotta say totally agree against booing

However Keith Fahey frustrates the hell out of me.....I have never known a player as lightweight as him!!!

If he was to bolster himself up a bit and gain a bit more confidence to perform to the level I reckon he could be, then I'd be a happy man....unfortunately he's dispossessed quite regularly and very rarely runs at defenses

I'm not writing him off....as I know he has undoubted ability, I just wish we'd see glimpses of it more frequently

Kro

Have you ever took a step back and though hang on a second, non of our other CM's who play in this position run at defences so maybe its asked of him and other CM's to retain possesion and keep the ball moving!
Fahey under AM when played once in a blue moon at CM did run at defenders and commited them but his role isn't to commit defenders! If u have ever been involved at any level of football players are given roles that are asked of by management!

Fahey's role is clearly retain possesion, keep the ball moving and the team moving forward! He links the defence to the midfield and if you haven't notices both of our wingers drop in behind the front man in central and wide posistions to become the link between midfield and up front!

Before critising a player, booing him or completly writting him off consider the tactical side of the game because that will normally explain the reason why a player isn't performing or isn't doing a role you expect of him!

In his first season barry fugurson was loved for just being their breaking up play and keep the ball moving! Not once did he become physical or try bully a player, some players are good enough positionally and read the game so well they force the opponent into making a mistake!
If you watch fahey closely his always close to his man and vary rarely gets beat or does a pass expose him! He stands off and forces his player to play sidewards or backwards! U will hardly see a ball go forward in a central area if fahey is closing him down!

This may be a weird comparison but if any of you have played fifa this year, the game play is much more realistic its about standing of your player and phases of play! Making ur opponent play around you not through you!
You can't run around anymore chasing players otherwise you will be exposed, u stand off and time your tackle, block a pass or force them into a mistake!
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Dec 12 2011, 05:57 PM
Its a British trait, get stuck in & your great even though you have very little ability the fans will love you :LMAO:  actually have ability but the physical side of the game isn't your best asset & you will be ripped to pieces.
N'daw probably played 5 or 6 passes to the invisible man on saturday but not a squeek from anybody :rolleyes: Beau fro me has been shocking at times in fact he doesen't play his position very well most of the time but again hardly a complaint (how much did he cost compared to Fahey :blink:
I think there's people who just dont like Fahey full stop regardless of what he does on the pitch.


I think you make some very good points. I think our fans have been so starved of football over the years they dont know it when they see it. Be physical and get the ball forward as quick as possible who cares if we lose possession.

I think much of the mentality is that many fans are so **** scared of us conceding (especially when playing the Vile), that they ball for us to punt it forward asap more because it's as far away from our goal as possible rather than nearer the oppositions.

Only/IF the Birmingham City faithful DEMAND that the football is played on the ground can WE really begin to grasp the bright future we so richly deserve. Until then it's be physical and get it forward anyway you can before skill and IF the ball lands right one of our players can convert the chance.

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Dec 12 2011, 05:34 PM


If you play in the middle of the park you can't hide...he does !

There are some real poor comments on this thread, Blue birdys "never runs at defences". But that one was soundly answered earlier, however of all the poor comments about Fahey on this thread , this one is the most unjustified, even Fahey's most hardent critic will see that Fahey is the most available Blues player on the pitch, he never hides, he always wants the ball.

I think this is an argument between people who understand a bit about football, see what the manager is trying to do and what he is asking of individual players, and the "get it forward" brigade, we are basically playing 424 with 2 wingers, Fahey is being asked to protect the back four, whilst keeping us moving with short sharp passes, just like fergie was asked to do previously. No one is moaning at Davies, Caldwell and Myhill for not running at defences!!!!!!!!! We have wingers and forwards for that. Fahey plays the pivitol midfield role, and plays it very well.
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Dec 12 2011, 05:57 PM
Its a British trait, get stuck in & your great even though you have very little ability the fans will love you :LMAO: actually have ability but the physical side of the game isn't your best asset & you will be ripped to pieces.
N'daw probably played 5 or 6 passes to the invisible man on saturday but not a squeek from anybody :rolleyes:

You're right about the British trait but I thought some of N'Daw's passes were brilliant. He was spraying out to either wing and looking to keep the attack going in ways we've never seen from Fahey. Hope he's fit to play on Thurs.
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Dec 12 2011, 08:28 AM
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Dec 12 2011, 04:17 AM
I wonder how much fans opinions wouldve changed had Keith's shot in the Carling Cup Final found the bottom corner, rather than cannoning off the post...

That is no defence of Fahey, MF. Those same said fans will always think Zigic is great for his flukey one against Villa last season.

But your post reminds me of something. When Fahey came here all those St Pats fans came on here and their main fanfare was Fahey's long-distance shooting and free licks. I don't think I have seen him attempt one this season.

I know the Irish league is about Conference standard but that shouldn't matter when it comes to taking a free kick or attempting an in-play long shot.

As I said in an earlier post, I think we were all duped by those St Pat's fans and it didn't help when the plastic paddies jumped on his bandwagon.

(great free kick from Seb yesterday)

Its not a defence no, but the fickle nature of a football supporter means the guy wouldve been worshipped for the rest of our lives.

How many games/goals did Obafemi Martins play/score for us? He's gone down in folklore and every Blues fan loves him for that one moment... same for any player who wouldve scored a winning goal for us in a cup final.

He's certainly no where near as bad as some make out, although its pretty obvious to me he's suffering badly from low confidence...which is why he doesnt attempt long range efforts or put his name forwards for free kicks (which he does for Ireland if you've ever seen him play for them).


He came on, on Saturday, looked for forward passes, intricate passes and even had a shot from distance , so fair play to him.
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